okay, what happens when a congregation member, a relatively new convert, approaches an elder and says, "hey, jim.
just wanted to let you know that i'm going to have to leave today's meeting as soon as it breaks....".
"really," says jim.
Take the warped, illogical, and unscriptural reasoning to a simple conclusion:
We should not go out and talk to anyone in Christendom about the Scriptures, because Christendom is apostate, and by extension© anyone claiming to be part of Christendom is apostate also!!!!!!
These filthy apostates could tell us anything about their corrupt beliefs and cause us to be stumbled, so "quit touching the unclean thing" and avoid apostate Christians at all costs!!
this thread is similarly purposed to this one on the jeremiah book.. i intend it as a source for material and comments relating to the new imitate their faith book that came out at the 2013 wt district convention.. eventually, the book is going to be studied at the congregation book study.
(the book itself says so.
see the letter from the governing body, par.
Hi Bobcat, thanks for the warning about the new book which I have not obtained yet.
I will treat it as the second most important thing in my life!!
What's the most important thing? Everything else!!
a letter was read tonight at the meeting with this information.. apparently, three years ago the gb authorised the uk bethel to consolidate all the uk resources.
so far over 300 sites have been looked at but more information will be forthcoming.. in the meantime we can work to this end by saving so that we can contribute to the new facility.. also skilled and unskilled trades people can register for volunteer work, collect an application form from the secretary.. to me it seems like they are going to move out of london (mill hill, bittacy hill etc), get a cheaper area, pay for the new facility with donations and free labour.
they will then sell all the high value property and probably send the money to the us.
@ DOZY - Brilliant! I'd just downloaded the Charity Webpage before I read your post.
I cannot discern the valuation of the actual buildings; can you explain where those are?
I believe that they believe it!! (legends in their own minds)
a letter has been read out in uk congs requesting donations to support the expansion/relocation?
of the london branch, as well as requesting free skilled labour for the project.
further letters are promised on the subject.. (w87 12/1 p. 30 "unlike the churches of christendom, jehovahs witnesses do not take up collections or send out envelopes to solicit donations.
A letter has been read out in UK congs requesting donations to support the expansion/relocation? of the London Branch, as well as requesting free skilled labour for the project. Further letters are promised on the subject.
(w87 12/1 p. 30 "Unlike the churches of Christendom, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not take up collections or send out envelopes to solicit donations.") True, they don't - they just levy (TAX) every congregation on a per publisher basis for corporate cars, assemblies and conventions, and then tug at the sheep's spiritual heartstrings for more of their dwindling financial resources, in order to increase the already gigantic property and investment portfolio.
If it's being relocated, its sale would realise tens of mi££ions, therefore it should be self-funding:
If it's being "expanded", then why is 'Mother' not dipping her hand into her purse which now is bulging with hundreds of million$, and pay the necessary amount for a new piece of land?
I wouldn't be surprised if UK congs were asked for a per publisher contribution as time goes by. In that case, the aforementioned scenarios must be raised as questions prior to the congregation being asked to "vote" on another tax to be paid. (perhaps also a question about the million$ of donated cash being given away to paedophile victims)
The reasoning will probably be, "If we can TAX them for air-fares for missionaries freebies, they'll gladly do this".
this one is shorter than usual (!
), since it makes a simple point, based on jesus' example found in john 8:.
http://awgue.weebly.com/would-jesus-shun.html.
Did Jesus shun the greatest apostate, Satan? Nope - he talked Scriptures with him!
Did Jah " " " " " ? Nope - He spoke twice with Satan, at Job 1 & 2.
Also, Christ continually spoke Scripture with the apostate Pharisees & Sadducees - "offspring of vipers and from their father the devil". So is it wrong to talk to someone who doesn't agree with our thinking?
if you believe sirhan sirhan killed robert kennedy... here's a fun question: was his father bishara sirhan a jw?.
in this newspaper article, they claim he is:.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19680606&id=j0qgaaaaibaj&sjid=jiweaaaaibaj&pg=7123,578715.
The use of the name 'Jehovah' on your home indicates nothing.
I called on a house years ago which had the name 'Jehovah displayed on an ornate plaque - expecting to be received at least respectfully. I was treated very disdainfully.
repetitition for emphasis!
(couldn't repair original post - sorry).
who are christ's brothers?.
Very many thanks Bobcat; you're comments are much appreciated - reply posted!
sheep & goats.
jesus said, "truly i say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me".. exactly to whom was jesus addressing these words, and who were his "brothers?.
the subject matter of matthew chapter 25 deals with christ's judgement of all humans, and verses 32 & 33 make it crystal clear that there only two groups standing before him - 'sheep' and 'goats'.
@ BOBCAT
"Here is the really fascinating part. Both sheep and goats profess to not knowing that when they did good deeds to "the least of these my brothers" (a phrase which seems to be all inclusive of the disciple community - from greatest to least, as it were), that they were doing these things (or failing to) to Jesus. Both sheep and goats act as if there is no ongoing relationship between themselves and Jesus. The wording does, in fact, seem to differentiate Jesus' disciples from these sheep and goats from among "all the nations."
You've really done it now!! :)
What you have articulated above is a fleeting thought which I almost as quickly dismissed a while back. I reasoned that only those who accepted Christ (2 Thess. 1:6-9) would merit God's approval. However, Jesus himself said, " for he that is not against us is for us. For whoever gives YOU a cup of water to drink on the ground that YOU belong to Christ, I truly tell YOU, he will by no means lose his reward." (Mark 9:40,41)
This harmonises with your reasoning that neither group in the judgement comprehended that they had helped/hindered Christ's brothers!!
Just as Paul had no idea he was persecuting Christ by attacking the Christians.
Thanks for sharing this facet of the gem! Time for readjusting of thinking!!
for all you who are just reading this forum and find out the truth about the truth: learn from my mistakes please!!.
with the wisdom that i have gotten from jwn, reading freedom of mind by steven hassan (yes, i finally read it!
), i now have changed my strategy: .
If confronted by the Enforcers, all you have to say is, "Thank you for bringing to my attention that Sister Vigilant has misinterpreted our discussion. I was merely pointing out that a Watchtower article said such and such, but now it's totally different. I'll make sure that I don't cause upset again by explaining that I am only quoting what our FDS once revealed as truth".
